New Testimony on the Bain Case

Since the end of the retrial new testimony has arisen regarding the Bain case.  This testimony comes from someone who knew the Bain children and was out of the country until just before the trial and had not been made aware that the case had been brought back into play.

According to this witness Laniet left home at Every St, where she was living with her family, because of David.  The testimony of this witness suggests that it was David who was behaving inappropriately towards his sisters (not his father) and that he was controlling and manipulative.  Arawa felt that she could not go out to visit her friends without David wanting to follow along and Laniet felt scared and helpless.

This testimony represents new evidence, which in a criminal case might be sufficient for a retrial.  Since we have already had a retrial and therefore double jeopardy applies, then there is no chance for a retrial.  However, given that the Crown has been asked to do an assessment for compensation, then such an investigation must take this new evidence into account and the retrial verdict can no longer be used as a determinant of eligibility for compensation.  In essence, the judge conducting the investigation must do a "retrial" including the new evidence.

This witness testimony has been sworn and is now included in the evidence that will be seen by the judge investigating the Bain compensation bid. In addition the testimony has been recorded on video.

Comments

David Bain

I've been following this case from day one and have no doubt that David Bain is as guilty as sin. Joe Karam's involvement has been an unfortunate and misguided obession - really odd if you think about it.

I recently read NewstalkZB's Mike Hosking's comments and was quite shocked at his take on it.

That weird, creepy thing with the underwear that David wanted one of his sister's (cant' remember which one offhand) to wear at her own funeral says it all.

  Yes Mike Hosking's take on

 

Yes Mike Hosking's take on things was a bit unbelievable but then he is in the business of show business if he was to offend Joe Karam or say his book is rubbish Joe would not be on the show, Mike knows a controversial character like Karam and the Bain case is good for the ratings at the end of the day business is business.

 

Yes, I would tend to agree. 

Yes, I would tend to agree.  Paul Holmes has already documented the obsession and you are perfectly entitled to opine that it is a misguided one.  My opinion is that the verdict was the result of trial by media, and Mike Hosking, being a media anchor has contributed to it.  No doubt Hosking has not closely investigated all the evidence objectively before coming to his conclusions, rather he has just taken the populist reputation of Joe Karam at face value and allowed himself to believe most of what Karam has said.

Hi Kent

Hi Kent,

I said I've been following the case for years but cleary not as closely as yourself and others on this site. I didn't know this site existed until recently. And I didn't know Karam had threatened to sue you. That's disappointing to hear.

I've read Karam's booklets and books over the years but wasn't really convinced. It wasn't until I read Rosemary McCloud's piece in North & South that I started to look harder.

David Farrar had some good stuff at Kiwiblog (as you are no doubt aware) during the last trial and made some excellent points indicating (IMO - do I have to say that?!) David's guilt. And Michael Laws has been good to listen to.

I've just signed the petition. All the best.

 

 

Karam on 60 minutes now I think

Karam on 60 minutes now I think

Hi Stuart,Thanks for your

Hi Stuart,

Thanks for your comment.  I think that all of what David Farrer had to say is incorporated in the evidence section on this site.  Karam has more than threatened to sue.  All going as it has been, we will end up in court, hence the fund raising.

Thanks for signing the petition.  You might like to encourage other people to do the same.  Ultimately the decision is made by the MoJ not Justice Binnie.

All the best

Kent

Arawas. He wanted her to wear

Arawas. He wanted her to wear a push up bra and a gorgeous sexy dress. What a *cough* caring brother

Mike Hoskins

You have to remember that so many journos have been sued/threatened by Karam and so many papers sued/threatened that most commentators attached to large media corporations are too sh*t scared to question Karam on any controversial subject or even hint at it for that matter. 

Well ,one journo isn't.

Martin van Beynen isn't scared of Karam.He and I are sending each other emails flat out today.I hope to get a letter in the paper re my theory that David Bain could have turned the computer on at 6.42.That will put the cat amongst the pidgeons.

Well ,one journo isn't.

Martin van Beynen isn't scared of Karam.He and I are sending each other emails flat out today.I hope to get a letter in the paper re my theory that David Bain could have turned the computer on at 6.42.That will put the cat amongst the pidgeons.

Yes, that has definitely

Yes, that has definitely played a part.